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I wholeheartedly agree that allowing inflated sales prices, which aren’t adequately reviewed by a licensed appraiser, to become the basis for future comps is a dangerous and unsustainable practice. If the industry continues to prioritize volume over quality, consumers and taxpayers will bear the brunt of these poor decisions.
Three comps of a matching model in the same neighborhood, sales prices 100, 125, 150. Comps selections represent one better, one worse, one similar. The closer one can identify comps, the less the total amount of adjustments that would need applied. The alternative is a classical simple mathematical approach.
Except for the fact that the home inspection photos will also be analyzed and input in that database, along with all the appraisal photos from the properties you selected as comps, as they were once subject homes themselves. Here comes the automation that the big fintechs are already using, now centralized.
For an appraiser to arbitrarily go into another area to get "comps" merely…. The post NAR Report Paints a Different Picture appeared on Appraisers Blogs. Our Job Is to Observe & Report Our job is to observe and report.
You may have heard of comparable sales (comps) before in the context of buying or selling a home. Comps are a highly valuable tool to find the value of a home or a business. One of the first steps in planning to sell your business is to get a business valuation.
This extends beyond just the comps in your grid to every single comparable in your model. I use True Adjustmnet Trends from Homeputer. Remarkably, it doesn’t require photos to assess and rate the condition and quality of comparables.
…a brilliant ‘work around’ to solve the subject & comps adjustment issues, which Fannie Mae thinks is no big deal… Appraisers, I was chatting with an appraiser buddy last week about the ANSI measuring dilemma we all face when doing Conventional lending reports, which ultimately will wind up with Fannie Mae.
A picture is worth a thousand words but an in person visit (subject/comps) is worth a million. I had a comp in a neighborhood I was well familiar with and after viewing the listing photos I yelled at the agent (in my head of course) where the hell are the pictures of the mountains the house was facing. She had not included one.
FNMA forcing a repurchase and subsequent state complaint because appraiser cross comped across a school district boundary a half mile away. [link] The hits keep on coming. An appraiser just asked for help in an older thread.
The brokers were difficult, espeically the “pre-comps”… but it was pretty cool getting paid at the door – in advance!! I don’t manipulate or omit comp data to “make it fit”… but my Regulator told me we ALL do it. This was over a decade ago but still blows my mind.
As far as I understand it, when an ROV is submitted to you by the lender, who may have received it from the borrower, they have to give you a valid and researched reason as to why their comp(s) is worthy of being considered and is better than your comp(s). This according to Dodd-Frank & the revised ROV rule.
A number of years ago a friend, was driving on a Saturday viewing some comps for an avigation easement and expansion of LAX, He noted new owner, recent buyer mowing his lawn, and also noted that this buyer paid a seemingly high price. In reply to Michael Ford. My collegiate approached the new owner asking about the price paid!
I’ve done some that have taken a couple of hours because they included many comps. I have to fully research each comp to determine if it’s a true comp or not. I even had one AMC tell me I should go drive by the new comps provided. Then I have to state why it is or isn’t.
Yeah, I did just that once, not to be a butt but because those comps where mislabeled and where more appropriate than two of the comps I had. In reply to Mary Thompson Thompson.
By not requiring the appraiser to inspect the subject property, comps, and surrounding properties, appraisers are being set-up to be the fall-guy in the next bubble as the industry is being gutted by nonsense.
Im so tired of amateurs claiming ‘driving the comps’ is inefficient or a waste of time. In reply to Dallas Kiedrowski on Facebook. Clearly they haven’t a clue as to what specifically they are supposed to be looking for. Yet they continue to undermine our profession with short sighted, poorly informed suggestions.
The comps/market and analysis speaks for itself. Is the analysis sound, are the comps conditionally and locationally adequate and relevant to the subject. More redundancy and gobbledygook for USPAP. End of story. Who’s concerned about ethnicity or race and how can one appraise a property on that basis?
Reality is those comps could actually be good but sad news is the value is reduced. Everyone always thinks new comps means a higher value. In reply to Spencer Paul. Not trying to be a butt. They don’t.
And if the house (comp) has been totally renovated since purchase than the photo it is misleading to the reader of the report. In reply to Dallas Kiedrowski on Facebook. exactly, we can see any location or view differences from the plat maps reviewed.
Comps oftentimes are 20 miles +. I refused to adhere. Guidelines ask for best comparable for an area. That’s where the sales are located. I cannot create a market which doesn’t exist. I use the data present and make logical inferences and data to support. Same with the %. It is what it is or reconsider doing business in this market.
I am sure everyone has had situations where comps were provided and IF you used them it would actually reduce value, because all they did was look at sales price and did not think to look at square footage, renovations etc.
I always use a range of values in my comp search,ie,if a home is contracted for $300,000, common sense dictates that the home is worth more than 200K and less than 400K, I always include the following statement; “In the search for suitable, similar sold comps the contracted sales price is NEVER a comp search criteria or parameter” 1
Imagine actually performing detailed buyer motivation research for every single comp selected. So you follow this silly theory about buyer behavior and adjust down to the individual sq ft for one comp, but then round out your adjustments for the next comp. As I mentioned below, don’t get too caught up in theory.
The whole point made by the GSEs for having PDCs and hybrid appraisals is so that the educated and experienced appraiser did not “waste” time driving to a subject property and then to take all the comp pics. Sadly, and predictably that is not what has transpired, or at least I don’t believe it has.
There is an appraiser around me whom always uses 9-12 comps and then just scoots the ones which have narrower net/gross adjustments to the front, yet leaves the others in there, despite them having insane high net/gross adjusts and adjusted sales values which are at times a quarter or more difference. They’re like anti comps.
Imagine being an english professor and still being required to take english comp 101 for literally the rest of your life, and continue to pay for it full price every time. You’d better pair your comps up for extraction and allocation before your irv hits a nerve and the grm hops past your caps. It takes me 2.5
AS NOTED IN BILL’S REPLY: “If a ROV is requested, an explanation is required from the supplying party/parties as to why the new sales are superior to the appraisers comps.” ” LET US NOT FORGET THIS. Do not reply to ROV’s unless this is included by the lender.
I actually think the 4th appraisal used a couple superior comps in terms of quality of construction and 3 car garages. A lot of smaller GLA comps were used though in comparison to the subject. In reply to CRAIG PREECE. Yeah I saw that too. Appraisal 1 and 3 seemed decent.
During the refi boom, most of my work was very difficult rural work where I’d commonly drive 300-400 miles inspecting the property and taking comp photos. In reply to Joseph. I got a few really good fees during that time.
Appraiser who start out with a blank canvas (so to speak), with no asking price information provided to them, — obtaining data only by available visual information and records of the property and improvements itself, to work up the estimate and appropriate comps.
It said, Comp 2, an older, Traditional dwelling, is in the subject neighborhood…” I am baffled. We were asked today to remove the term “Traditional” from commentary about a comparable.
It was also in a different neighborhood than the higher comps. Second appraiser used comps of fully renovated homes in an area which sells for a lot more because it’s revitalized. I believe the first appraisal.The property needed to be fully, fully renovated. The area is being revitalized but not where this home is located.
I can legally take pictures from the street if a comp. The GSE boilerplate unlimited reliance statements do NOT constitute a permission by the property owner or borrower to use data in an appraisal PAID FOR BY THE BORROWER for other unintended purposes. Then there is the issue of privacy itself.
1) the comps were issued by selling agent, 2) appraiser used comps that were approx. Also, ignored a comp that was 4 houses down from ours that sold with in 90 days prior to ours. We live in a small town where every one knows everyone, We were located in WA Stated and purchased from Cross Country here in NC.
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